joining me now, assistant majority leader, senator dick durbin of illinois. thank you very much for joining me tonight, senator. >> good to be with you. >> senator, you were in the meeting this afternoon, i know you were sworn to secrecy, but come on, it's just us talking here. >> i'll be free to spill my guts. >> you always do come out of it with a feeling of how close are we. how close are we to a finish line, how does it feel, does it feel deadlocked. what was your feeling walking out of the room today? >> well, at least we understand one another better, but we're not close to an agreement. the president made it clear, though, this is his second night in the row that we've met -- or second day in a row. he said we're going so meet every single day until we get it done. he's determined, personally invested in it, and really putting us all in the task we cannot let the economy slip even further by failing to extend the debt limit.